Showing posts with label translation. Show all posts
Showing posts with label translation. Show all posts
11.13.2025
3.04.2025
pure presence
a poem is something in the midst of a white plane
fenced in by itself and enclosed by the surface of its lines.
although it has forgotten where and how it came to be,
it is no lost soul
[…]
a pure presence
each poem is a shell around a kernel possibly invented
each poem is a translation of the one poem that exists only in translation
each poem is its own condition
a poem is that which declares itself to be a poem
—Jutta Schutting, the start and ending of “Poems,” from In der Sprache der Inseln, Contemporary Austrian Poetry (Fairleigh Dickinson U. Press, 1986), edited and translated by Beth Bjorklund
fenced in by itself and enclosed by the surface of its lines.
although it has forgotten where and how it came to be,
it is no lost soul
[…]
a pure presence
each poem is a shell around a kernel possibly invented
each poem is a translation of the one poem that exists only in translation
each poem is its own condition
a poem is that which declares itself to be a poem
—Jutta Schutting, the start and ending of “Poems,” from In der Sprache der Inseln, Contemporary Austrian Poetry (Fairleigh Dickinson U. Press, 1986), edited and translated by Beth Bjorklund
Labels:
austrian poetry,
enclosed,
fence,
jutta schutting,
kernel,
poem is,
presence,
shell,
translation,
white plane
2.15.2023
english to newer english
Earlier English poets who we now read in translations conforming to later conventions of syntax, punctuation and spelling.
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conventions,
early,
English,
times,
translation
11.02.2022
find a translation
One of the biggest mistakes I made early in my reading life was to pass over the foreign words and phrases I encountered. My loss. Now I pause and get at least a rough or partial translation. Of course now the web makes things easier. In any case, my reading has been deepened by taking the time to find a translation.
Labels:
foreign word,
pass over,
pause,
reading life,
translation
9.02.2021
no one world language
[Minor rant provoked when someone proposed that Pushkin was untranslatable.]
All writers are translatable. Translation is simply what gives one access to a writer's work that one can't read in the original language. The results are always a mixed bag of gains and losses. But translation itself is necessary and important, unless we all, all of us on this planet, wake up tomorrow speaking the same language.
Pushkin, like all poets, imperfectly translated the world and human experience into Russian, and into poetry.
All writers are translatable. Translation is simply what gives one access to a writer's work that one can't read in the original language. The results are always a mixed bag of gains and losses. But translation itself is necessary and important, unless we all, all of us on this planet, wake up tomorrow speaking the same language.
Pushkin, like all poets, imperfectly translated the world and human experience into Russian, and into poetry.
6.06.2021
no kink
I hung about town the whole month of June because of the introduction I was writing to my Shakespeare translations. I was terribly afraid to get stuck in the muddle of pseudo-scholarly verbosity which every great centuries-old theme gathers round it and of only adding to this tangled skein a kind of modified kink. Imagine, it did not happen! I succeeded in saying in very simple and comprehensible words a great deal about Shakespeare that I learned when I was translating him, and all this on one printer’s sheet!
—Boris Pasternak, in a letter to S. I Chikovani, 15 March 1946
Letters to Georgian Friends, translated from the Russian with an introduction and notes by David Magarshack (Seckler & Warburg, 1967)
—Boris Pasternak, in a letter to S. I Chikovani, 15 March 1946
Letters to Georgian Friends, translated from the Russian with an introduction and notes by David Magarshack (Seckler & Warburg, 1967)
Labels:
boris pasternak,
concise,
criticism,
introduction,
kink,
shakespeare,
translation
10.20.2019
trusting translation
Reading a translation is a matter of trust. At least one must trust that a good amount of craft and poetic sensibility went into making the translation.
Labels:
craft,
poetic sensibility,
translation,
trust
11.11.2018
steel grace
I append the translation by J. U. Nicolson (The Complete Works of François Villon). I find Mr. Nicolson’s rendering of this poem more satisfactory than D. G. Rossetti’s or John Payne’s, both of whom make the poem too “musical,” destroying its natural diction which was Villon’s great quality, and both of whom make the poem too sentimental. Villon has sweetness in him and love of beauty, even piety; but his grace is a steel-like hardness; he is never, except perhaps in the Ballade of Grosse Margot, sentimental. Swinburne understood Villon perfectly, and he did several excellent translations but he did not translate the Dead Ladies:
Say where, not in what land, may be
Flora the Roman? Where remain
Fair Archippa’s charms, and she—
Thaïs—in beauty so germaine?
Echo, calling afar, in vain,
Over the rivers and the marshes wan,
Lovelier once than girls profane?
But where are the snows of the last year gone?
—Burton Rascoe, Titans of Literature (Blue Ribbon Books, Inc., 1932)
Say where, not in what land, may be
Flora the Roman? Where remain
Fair Archippa’s charms, and she—
Thaïs—in beauty so germaine?
Echo, calling afar, in vain,
Over the rivers and the marshes wan,
Lovelier once than girls profane?
But where are the snows of the last year gone?
—Burton Rascoe, Titans of Literature (Blue Ribbon Books, Inc., 1932)
Labels:
beauty,
diction,
french poetry,
grace,
musical,
natural diction,
sentimental,
steel,
translation,
villon
5.28.2018
2.28.2018
poet unbound
The translator has more responsibility than the poet has.
Labels:
responsibility,
translation,
translator
2.24.2018
12.19.2017
speak esse
Some important elements of the poem must come through in translation, or what hope have we as humankind?
8.06.2017
reading matter
Not long ago I wrote a series of poems in response to the collection, The Dream We Carry, by Olav Hauge, a Norwegian. He opened a door for me that I had not known stood closed. He deals in elementals. “A good poem,” he wrote, “should smell of tea, / or of raw earth and freshly cut wood.”
Art is a conversation with the past. Sometimes it is an argument.
—Frederick Smock, On Poetry: Palm-Of-The-Hand Essays (Broadstone Books, 2017)
Art is a conversation with the past. Sometimes it is an argument.
—Frederick Smock, On Poetry: Palm-Of-The-Hand Essays (Broadstone Books, 2017)
Labels:
argument,
conversation,
door,
elemental,
frederick smock,
olav hauge,
past,
reading,
tea,
translation,
wood
8.02.2017
praise be
When encountering a foreign word or phrase, pause not only to puzzle out the meaning but also to praise the generosity of translators.
Labels:
foreign language,
praise,
puzzle,
reading,
strange,
translation,
translator
3.09.2017
reading report
I heard the poet A.E. Stallings read today. It was the 54th Wallace Stevens Poetry Program reading. Her work was weaker than all the past readers I’ve heard (going back over a decade). She has a strong background in the Classics (Greek & Latin) but it seems wasted when it comes to her poetry. Stallings read a ‘limerick sequence’ (if you could believe someone would think writing one was a good idea) based on various mythic figures and tales…wow, that was a painful experience to hear. I did like one poem based on the Minotaur myth, wherein the Minotaur isn't slayed by Theseus, but dies trapped below earth after an earthquake has collapsed the structures above his labyrinth.
Stallings is also a translator from the Greek and Latin. I liked something she said about that. Paraphrasing her here: ‘I prefer to translate dead poets. They don’t have any opinions about or objections to your translation.’
Stallings is also a translator from the Greek and Latin. I liked something she said about that. Paraphrasing her here: ‘I prefer to translate dead poets. They don’t have any opinions about or objections to your translation.’
Labels:
a.e. stallings,
classics,
formalism,
limerick,
myths,
translation
12.19.2016
trader not traitor
Traduttori traditori (“translators traitors”); no, traduttori commercianti (“translators traders”).
Labels:
trader,
traitor,
translation,
translator
11.30.2016
no language cage
We know a great poem strains to the point of bursting the bounds of its language, but even as it does so it defies any other language to try to capture it in translation.
Labels:
bounds,
capture,
great poem,
language,
translation
11.25.2016
usual suspects
Like police captains with few leads, translators seem to put out the call to round up the usual suspects, rather than search for a less trafficked in poetry.
Labels:
repetition,
translation,
usual suspects
11.15.2016
source and target
After he’d read his poems, someone in the audience asked from what language the poems had been translated.
8.25.2016
survival of poetry
A poet’s elegy for another poet is somehow a translation of that poet or at least of a tradition, and involves some kind of transfer of powers, perhaps aggressively asserted by the survivor. In any case, the underlying question is not that of personal survival, but of the survival of poetry. If all real poetry is, as I believe, writing in the light of death, elegy is the genre which performs most consciously in that light.
—Rosanna Warren, “Sappho: Translation as Elegy,” Fables of the Self: Studies in Lyric Poetry (Norton, 2008)
—Rosanna Warren, “Sappho: Translation as Elegy,” Fables of the Self: Studies in Lyric Poetry (Norton, 2008)
Labels:
death,
elegy,
light,
powers,
rosanna warren,
survival,
translation
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